How to Do PiP (Picture-in-Picture) of 2 Cameras?

[sonichedgehog360]

How to do I do PiP (Picture-in-Picture) of 2 Cameras from separate computers? Thanks!

[cseeman]

Wirecast can do it.
http://www.telestream.net/wire-cast/overview.htm

[sonichedgehog360]

From multiple source computers from across the web? If so, how useful and how long can I use the trial version of Wirecast?

[sonichedgehog360]

Can someone please answer my 2nd question.

[cseeman]

Wirecast with free Desktop Presenter can take video from other computers on a network. I can easily have 3 videos (PiP) on the screen at once, a fourth actually using "background" for another video.

Wirecast trial is forever and you can have Desktop presenter on every computer in your network.

People can send video to each computer with Skype, Oovoo, iChatAV, AIM I believe can do this too. Point DTP to each video and Wirecast will see all of the. Then arrange the PiP. Skype and AIM can only show one video per computer. Oovoo can do 6 but you have to pay for more than 2. iChatAV can do 4 I believe but they must be on Macs. iChatAV can work with AIM but that automatically limits it to one.

I often do one Skype call on my streaming computer so I can do me and guest on a single computer. I could do the same with Oovoo and have 5 guests on one computer (but that costs money) DTP sends the video. When on the same computer (MAC) I can use SoundFlower (free) to send the audio.

[cseeman]

Here's some videos on Youtube from someone doing this with Wirecast

http://www.youtube.com/user/McIntec#p/u/6/c4zic3Rjvn4

Here's another
http://www.youtube.com/user/McIntec#p/u/9/EqbWDfmbV1Y

He's doing this on ONE computer. He's creating Virtual Computers (VMWare Fusion but also Parallels can do this). Each "virtual" computer can get one Skype video call.

[sonichedgehog360]

So I'd probably need something at least as beefy as a dual core... well, I guess I'll have to do some upgrading to my laptop.

[cseeman]

Yes, feeding two video sources uses more CPU. A good Core 2 Duo at least.

[sonichedgehog360]

But, I'd have to use a virtual machine(s) and then mix the video together. Okay. It's sad that Livestream doesn't provide a way to combine to video sources through LS Studio. I can see two at once (live and preview), but not use both simultaneoulsy. Do you know where I could recommend this feature to Livestream?

[cseeman]

. . . recommend it in the Feature Requests forum.

Originally Posted by sonichedgehog360

But, I'd have to use a virtual machine(s) and then mix the video together. Okay. It's sad that Livestream doesn't provide a way to combine to video sources through LS Studio. I can see two at once (live and preview), but not use both simultaneoulsy. Do you know where I could recommend this feature to Livestream?

There are people who have Wirecast and have had friends use Desktop Presenter to send video over the internet. It involves the "receiver" getting the IP address and port. The frame rate is low and there's no audio though.

Yes, it's certainly a tricky thing to do. Again using Oovoo would work (but costs some) since you could send the video conference to Livestream through something like Manycam for the video. I have to think about the audio. This is a bit easier for me to do on the Mac.